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		<description><![CDATA[Leighann is a 28 year wife and mother of one, homeschooler, WWOOFer, blogger, and world traveler. You can read more about her crazy life at http://www.thenewsbase.com plus lots of stuff about gardening, cooking and books. She never planned to travel the world, but sometimes life throws us curves and she&#8217;s still learning to roll with [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thenewsbase.com/wp-content/uploads/ivy-150x150.jpg"><img class="alignleft" style="margin: 10px;" title="Leighann Garber" src="http://thenewsbase.com/wp-content/uploads/ivy-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> Leighann is a 28 year wife and mother of one,</p>
<p>homeschooler, WWOOFer, blogger, and world traveler.  You can read more</p>
<p>about her crazy life at <a href="http://www.thenewsbase.com">http://www.thenewsbase.com</a> plus lots of stuff</p>
<p>about gardening, cooking and books. She never planned to travel the</p>
<p>world, but sometimes life throws us curves and she&#8217;s still learning to</p>
<p>roll with the punches.  Someone must have given her the old Chinese</p>
<p>curse: &#8220;May your life be interesting&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>Where are you from and where do you live now?</strong></p>
<p>I was born in St. Louis, Missouri in the USA, but I moved to Arkansas</p>
<p>when I was 8, and that&#8217;s my real roots.  I will always be a Southern</p>
<p>girl, wherever I live.  A lot of people misunderstand the South.</p>
<p>There is a lot of poverty, prejudice, and poor education.  But the</p>
<p>South is also about being close to your family and friends, living off</p>
<p>the land, and being a rebel: not letting people tell you what to do,</p>
<p>making your own way. Right now, we are living in rural France, which</p>
<p>in many ways reminds me of Arkansas.</p>
<p><strong>Where do you consider your home to be?</strong></p>
<p>Home.  That word is so full of meaning.  It can mean the place you</p>
<p>live, the place you&#8217;re from, the place your family is, where you feel</p>
<p>the most comfortable, where you feel you belong.  It conjures up</p>
<p>thoughts of warm hugs, Mom, and comfort food.  It&#8217;s a nostalgic,</p>
<p>romantic word, especially for me.  I&#8217;m quick to call a new place</p>
<p>&#8220;home&#8221;, even if we&#8217;re someplace for a week I say &#8220;let&#8217;s go home&#8221; when</p>
<p>we&#8217;re out shopping or something.  But I don&#8217;t mean that deeper sense</p>
<p>of home.  I guess in a way I&#8217;m still searching, although the Gulf</p>
<p>Islands in Canada feels like where I most belong.  That may seem like</p>
<p>I&#8217;m contradicting my last answer about Arkansas being my roots.  But</p>
<p>Arkansas is what I came out of.  I love it, but I don&#8217;t have the same</p>
<p>political and religious beliefs that I grew up with, and in most of</p>
<p>Arkansas that makes you stick out like a sore thumb.  Many people</p>
<p>would not accept me there.  There are a lot of close-minded people,</p>
<p>and I don&#8217;t have time for that in my life.</p>
<p><strong>How many addresses have you had?</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230; not counting all the times I moved around within the US</p>
<p>(about 5 times, mostly within Arkansas), we&#8217;ve lived in Belize,</p>
<p>Germany, Canada, and now France.   So that&#8217;s four different countries,</p>
<p>and counting.  France is nice, but it&#8217;s not where we will stay</p>
<p>forever.  The hardest thing about moving is that all the junk you</p>
<p>collect over the years, whether it&#8217;s sentimental, or just junk, builds</p>
<p>up.  You try to sell it, but you end up just giving it away.  And we</p>
<p>have things stashed all over the world, hoping we&#8217;ll be able to go</p>
<p>back and retrieve it at some point.  When you fly, there&#8217;s only so</p>
<p>much you can take.  And it&#8217;s hard to fit a lifetime into 6 suitcases.</p>
<p><strong>Can you tell me about the different jobs/careers you’ve had?</strong></p>
<p>I got married when I was 18, and I only did a semester of college</p>
<p>before I got pregnant.  I was suposed to take a semester off, and then</p>
<p>go back, but it was so overwhelming, and I was helping my husband</p>
<p>start a business.  We told ourselves we didn&#8217;t need to finish college.</p>
<p>We were already successful.  And that&#8217;s worked out OK for the most</p>
<p>part, but I wish sometimes that one or the other of us had finished.</p>
<p>It makes thinks a lot easier for international paperwork, and of</p>
<p>course opens up career opportunities.  I&#8217;ve worked for Taco Bell,</p>
<p>McDonald&#8217;s, Microplane as a factory worker, and Wal-mart.  I have also</p>
<p>been an insurance agent for Aflac and a telemarketer for the Heritage</p>
<p>company.  Most of these jobs were to help us out when our on-line</p>
<p>interests were struggling (we sold dial-up Internet access and web</p>
<p>hosting for a while, dabbled in the paid to click industry, sold stuff</p>
<p>on eBay).  Then, when we moved to Canada, we discovered WWOOFing -</p>
<p>Willing Workers (or World Wide Opportunities) On Organic Farms</p>
<p>(http://www.wwoof.ca is the Canadian site, but there are WWOOF</p>
<p>organizations around the world.).  It started out as a way to get free</p>
<p>rent, but we learned a lot about organic food and why it is so</p>
<p>important.  WWOOFing really helps farms to stay organic and</p>
<p>sustainable.  I wish we had discovered it years ago.</p>
<p><strong>Can you describe the process behind deciding to travel?</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s sort of a long story.  And it&#8217;s hard for me to tell.  We have</p>
<p>been judged so often, and lost friends and family over it.  You see, I</p>
<p>married a German man.  We were madly in love and wanted to stay</p>
<p>together. So we got married, both of us thinking marriage = quick</p>
<p>citizenship.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  We filed our</p>
<p>paperwork, and waited for the government to respond, assuming</p>
<p>everything was ok.  We pretty much forgot about it, knowing that we</p>
<p>had done what we were supposed to do. We had our son in March 2001,</p>
<p>and we had our business to keep us busy.  Things were actually going</p>
<p>quite well for us. Then September 11 happened. It didn&#8217;t seem to</p>
<p>affect us directly.  We didn&#8217;t know anyone affected.  But unknown to</p>
<p>us, the immigration system changed completely.  Under the Bush</p>
<p>administration, the border patrol was given more checkpoints and</p>
<p>several organizations were joined together to make &#8220;Homeland Security&#8221;</p>
<p>My husband went to Texas to take pictures of property we owned there</p>
<p>to sell.  On his way back home he was stopped at a checkpoint.  He</p>
<p>told the agent the truth &#8211; he was married to a legal US citizen, had a</p>
<p>US citizen kid.  He had filed his paperwork, but never got anything</p>
<p>back.  He didn&#8217;t carry his passport with him because gosh, it had been</p>
<p>several years, and he considered himself almost American by now.  They</p>
<p>found his file on the computer, but said too bad, you did everything</p>
<p>you were supposed to do, but we have to take you in anyway just to be</p>
<p>sure.  They kept my husband locked up for almost a month.  We finally</p>
<p>were able to get him out, but he had to go to hearings every month in</p>
<p>Memphis, a 4 hour drive away!  It finally became too much for him.  He</p>
<p>decided to leave the country. Not to Germany, which he hated, but to</p>
<p>Belize, a Central American country we had read a lot about.  Beautiful</p>
<p>place with easy immigration.  He left and told me he understood if I</p>
<p>didn&#8217;t come along.  He was there about a month by himself, getting our</p>
<p>house ready (we had bought a house there over the Internet a year or</p>
<p>two ago as an investment- for $7000 US!), and he sent a letter to</p>
<p>Homeland Security/INS, telling them he had left the country, and they</p>
<p>could all be happy now.  My son and I joined him and we ended up</p>
<p>living there for a year.  There were some political disagreements (the</p>
<p>prime minister of Belize basically invested all the Social Security</p>
<p>money into a new phone company, which went bankrupt!) and the</p>
<p>historically peaceful Belizeans began rebelling.  No one was killed,</p>
<p>but rocks were literally being thrown at cabinet members, threats and</p>
<p>bad feelings were in the air, and we were afraid of a full-on</p>
<p>revolution. We were at the point where we could try to go home, or we</p>
<p>could stay and pay for residency (we couldn&#8217;t afford both).  We chose</p>
<p>to go home.  I had a 3 year old.  It turns out there was no</p>
<p>revolution.  Belize voted Musa in again the next election.  But we</p>
<p>weren&#8217;t sure.</p>
<p>During this time, and immigration lawyer told us we would be able to</p>
<p>come back to the US, with Dan coming in as a tourist, and just refile</p>
<p>our paperwork.  We wouldn&#8217;t have any problems, and could start with a</p>
<p>clean slate.  That&#8217;s what we decided to do.</p>
<p>We came back into the US with no problems.  We assumed that meant</p>
<p>everything was OK and we could carry on.  The plan was for him to go</p>
<p>to Canada or Mexico every 6 months to stay legal.  But with our</p>
<p>finances, and living so far from the border, this wasn&#8217;t possible.</p>
<p>Still, we figured we were technically legal, and if we laid low we&#8217;d</p>
<p>be ok.  However, that illusion was shattered when about 5 ICE -</p>
<p>Immigration and Customs Enforcement &#8211; cars and a local small town cop</p>
<p>showed up in our yard, and arrested him.  It was a moment we had</p>
<p>dreaded, but didn&#8217;t think would really happen.  It didn&#8217;t make any</p>
<p>sense, and still doesn&#8217;t.  Once again they kept him locked up like a</p>
<p>criminal &#8211; a month and a half, but this time it was more serious.  INS</p>
<p>claims they didn&#8217;t get his letter about leaving.  According to their</p>
<p>records, he failed to show up at his last hearing, and was still in</p>
<p>the country as an overstay.  It was a second offense, so there was no</p>
<p>hearing. He was being deported.</p>
<p>Thus started the second wave of ex-patriotism for us.  He was sent</p>
<p>&#8220;home&#8221; to Germany, which he hadn&#8217;t been to in about 10 years.  And he</p>
<p>was told he couldn&#8217;t come back to the US for 10 years.  So we&#8217;re in</p>
<p>exile at the moment.  But we&#8217;re still workin on the paperwork&#8230;there</p>
<p>are ways to get forgiven and return sooner.  It&#8217;s the biggest mess</p>
<p>ever!  I can&#8217;t believe that the US tears about families like that, and</p>
<p>forces Americans to leave the country.  Especially when we tried to go</p>
<p>the legal route.  We filed our paperwork, we married for love, we did</p>
<p>our best to follow the law.  And this is the thanks we get for it.  At</p>
<p>the same time, I see people who are living illegally in the US, with</p>
<p>no claim at all.  And it just burns me up.  The worst is when someone</p>
<p>calls my husband an &#8220;illegal&#8221;. Like my parents. They just didn&#8217;t</p>
<p>understand.  They said if the government wanted to lock him up, he</p>
<p>must be a criminal, an illegal.</p>
<p>There is an upside to all of this, however.  First of all, we get to</p>
<p>travel!  We have been places I never dreamed of, and we have met</p>
<p>people that we would have never know.  Since my husband is an EU</p>
<p>citizen, we have access to EU countries with no problems, which is a</p>
<p>big relief.  We don&#8217;t like Germany, it is too restrictive.</p>
<p>Homeschooling is illegal, and there is too much bureaucracy.  So we</p>
<p>chose France, which seems like a good fit.  We&#8217;re not sure where the</p>
<p>road will take us next, but we&#8217;re enjoying the ride.</p>
<p>What do you enjoy most about where you live now?</p>
<p>France is a great country.  I love that there is so much space.</p>
<p>Germany was too crowded, all the houses up in the town together, and</p>
<p>the countryside given over to wheat fields. France seems a lot</p>
<p>easier-going with things: fishing is not so restricted, homeschooling</p>
<p>is legal, you are encouraged to park on sidewalks. <img src='http://www.theaccidentalexpats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   And the French</p>
<p>are rebels. They just don&#8217;t give a darn.  Which reminds me of</p>
<p>Arkansas.  Food here is amazing, and booze is dirt cheap.  We&#8217;re</p>
<p>learning a lot of French, and I love new languages and cultures.</p>
<p><strong>Is there anything you miss about ‘back home? If so what is it?</strong></p>
<p>Yes.    From Arkansas: Cheetos. Haha.  24-7 Wal-marts (or any other</p>
<p>24-7 stores.  They roll the sidewalks up here at 7).  Cheap peanut</p>
<p>butter (I&#8217;m so sick and tired of Nutella, and hazelnuts in everything,</p>
<p>I could scream!).  Garage sales (although we do have a rather decent</p>
<p>second-hand store here called Emmaus).</p>
<p>From Canada: The delicious apples we got so used to last year, being</p>
<p>near the sea, the free stores (like second-hand stores, but everything</p>
<p>is free!), the amazing people on the Gulf Islands</p>
<p>From Belize: cheap fresh fruit, great, loud music, tacos from my Cayo</p>
<p>taco vendor, Marie Sharp&#8217;s habanero sauce on everything, hearing</p>
<p>Creole</p>
<p>From Germany: 99 cent German oomph bread. The chewy, substantial bread</p>
<p>Germans use for their open-faced breakfast and dinner sandwiches.</p>
<p>And good liverwurst.</p>
<p>How has traveling/ becoming an expat changed you as a person?</p>
<p>It has really broadened my horizons. I used to have a lot of black and</p>
<p>white in my life.  A lot of pre-conceived notions.  When you learn for</p>
<p>yourself how people in other countries live, it tears those walls</p>
<p>down.  I&#8217;ve become much more adaptable.  In Belize we had an outhouse</p>
<p>and an outdoor shower, only cold water, and no washing machine.  For a</p>
<p>while we didn&#8217;t even have a refrigerator! I learned to wash clothes by</p>
<p>hand and I learned to appreciate all the great things we have in</p>
<p>developed countries: washing machines, dish washers, hot water, indoor</p>
<p>plumbing, electricity.  We take all this for granted, but so many</p>
<p>don&#8217;t have them!</p>
<p>In Canada we learned about WWOOFing, organic food, vegetarianism,</p>
<p>recycling, and a lot of other &#8220;green&#8221; things that we had never really</p>
<p>caught on to.  They&#8217;ve always seemed like a way for companies to make</p>
<p>a lot of money.  But we see them as very important now.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, our situation is a bit different now, so we&#8217;re not able</p>
<p>to live up to all things we learned, but we&#8217;re trying.  I also learned</p>
<p>to love gardening in Canada!</p>
<p><strong>How has traveling changed your lifestyle?</strong></p>
<p>We have had to learn not to accumulate so much.  Well, we&#8217;re learning.</p>
<p>It still adds up, but we have to really cut down.  We feel we&#8217;re</p>
<p>living a very temporary existence.  Tomorrow everything could change,</p>
<p>and we would have to start over someplace else.  If so, what are we</p>
<p>going to take in our 6 suitcases?  How can we get rid of or sell our</p>
<p>excess stuff?  We&#8217;ve also quit having pets.  They&#8217;re just too  much</p>
<p>trouble to take along.</p>
<p>I also learned to appreciate true friends more. I had a bunch of loser</p>
<p>friends in Arkansas that I thought cared about me, but they were just</p>
<p>fair weather friends.  I used to be very trusting of most people, and</p>
<p>I became paranoid, anti-social, and closed off for a while.  I can&#8217;t</p>
<p>reveal my true self without revealing my travels and the reason for</p>
<p>them, and I hate being judged.  My real friends have stuck with me</p>
<p>through thick and thin, and are always there when I need help.  That</p>
<p>is absolutely priceless. When your own parents turn your back on you,</p>
<p>it helps to know that someone is still out there, backing you up, even</p>
<p>if that person is in another country.  I&#8217;ve also learned to never put</p>
<p>friends before family.  Most of our friends now are family friends,</p>
<p>people who are older than us and have traveled.</p>
<p>Everywhere we go, I pick up a few recipes and food ideas. Which</p>
<p>inevitably leads to cravings for things when we leave a country.</p>
<p>Some, like beans and cornbread, are relatively easy to duplicate.  But</p>
<p>a fresh soursop or dragonfruit from Belize is almost impossible to</p>
<p>find elsewhere and rarely ripe.  We&#8217;re building up likings for creme</p>
<p>de cassis (current liqueur), chestnuts and real French nougat which</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid will be hard to duplicate in another country.</p>
<p><strong>Did you travel with your family?</strong></p>
<p>Yes.  I have had to go separately from my husband a couple times</p>
<p>because of immigration issues, but we always end up together.</p>
<p><strong>How has traveling changed your family life?</strong></p>
<p>Being separated is so hard, especially when it is not what we choose.</p>
<p>It ends up bringing us so much closer together.  We&#8217;ve been through so</p>
<p>much together, and we all know there is nothing more important than</p>
<p>family.  Many people envy us for our travels, many people judge us for</p>
<p>our past, but not many can really understand us.  We are around each</p>
<p>other 24-7, especially now that we&#8217;re living in the downstairs of an</p>
<p>old gîte.  Our beds are in the living room all together, and we work</p>
<p>together, do homeschool, etc.  Sometimes it gets on my nerves, but I</p>
<p>love being close to my family and not getting all caught up in the</p>
<p>drama of the outside world.</p>
<p><strong>How does your little one adjust to the changes?</strong></p>
<p>He is always excited to meet new kids, especially if they&#8217;re in/from a</p>
<p>different country.  He has his own little friends all over the world,</p>
<p>and some fantastic memories that will be with him forever. He&#8217;s never</p>
<p>been scared of anything, but he&#8217;s always so ready to jump into a new</p>
<p>friendship and talk to people.  It&#8217;s hard for him to move, but every</p>
<p>time we do, I tell him, &#8220;Remember last time, when you were so sad to</p>
<p>leave (insert kid&#8217;s name) and then we went to (insert country name)</p>
<p>and you met (new kid&#8217;s name).  Now if we hadn&#8217;t gone through that hard</p>
<p>time of missing someone, you would have never met your new friend!</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t that be sad?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad that he can be exposed to so many cultures and kinds of</p>
<p>people.  There is so much prejudice in Arkansas, but he has figured</p>
<p>out on his own that people are people anywhere in the world.  Some are</p>
<p>good, some are bad, some are stupid, some made good friends.  You</p>
<p>never know what you&#8217;ll find.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested to see where he decides to settle down some day.</p>
<p>Or if he does settle.  He enjoys traveling as much as I do.</p>
<p><strong>Any last words…..?</strong></p>
<p>I think everyone (in the States, at least) should be required to take</p>
<p>a year or longer trip to another country.  There&#8217;s no better way to</p>
<p>broaden your horizons and discover who you are.  The world would be a</p>
<p>much better place if we took the time to try to understand each other.</p>
<p>Thanks for this interview!</p>
<p><em>Thank You for taking the time Leighann, you have an interesting and touching story</em>. Our reasons for traveling can be so varied, yet what we &#8216;get out of it&#8217; is so rich.</p>
<p>Read More about Leighann at <a href="http://www.thenewsbase.com">TheNewsBase.com</a></p>
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